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Maurice Strong’s Outlook on COP15 Climate Change Negotiations, Exclusive Interview by Fred Dubee and Marisha Wojciechowska-Shibuya: 14/10/2009 (MaximsNewsNetwork). PHOTO: Mark Garten

CANADA'S MAURICE STRONG AT AN EARLIER UNITED NATIONS PRESS CONFERENCE (MaximsNewsNetwork)  UN Photo: Mark Garten

 

Maurice Strong’s Outlook on COP15 Climate Change Negotiations, Exclusive Interview by Fred Dubee & Marisha Wojciechowska-Shibuya: 14/10/2009 (MaximsNewsNetwork)

 

UNITED NATIONS - / MaximsNews Network / 14 October 2009 - Maurice Strong has been at the forefront of international environmental negotiations for over 40 years, namely as the Secretary-General of both the 1972 United Nations Conference on the Human Environment, which launched the world environment movement, and the 1992 Earth Summit. 

More recently, Mr. Strong has been actively advocating international compromise for tackling climate change. As the international community is frantically attempting to broker a new global climate treaty to combat climate change (set to be adopted in Copenhagen this December), we turn to Mr. Strong for perspective.

Fred Dubee & Marisha Wojciechowska-Shibuya: What is the crux of the climate change challenge?

Maurice Strong: The unsustainable nature of our current economic system was dramatically revealed by both the climate change and the economic crises. They are inextricably linked on a systemic, integrated basis and cannot be managed as separate and competing issues. 

The climate change challenge requires us to make changes in the fundamental nature and functioning of our economic system and resist the temptation merely to patch up the existing system to enable to continue, however, temporally, on the pathway that led to its crisis. 

Only through fundamental change can we transcend these crises and rebuild the economic and social foundations of our civilization to ensure its survival and sustainability.

Fred Dubee & Marisha Wojciechowska-Shibuya: How important is it for the world’s governments to reach agreement in Copenhagen in December?  

Maurice Strong: When climate change was first cited as an environmental risk at the Stockholm Conference in 1972, it was seen as a more distant prospect but requiring immediate attention and action to avoid. 

The world was not listening then. As one of my first initiatives as Executive Director of the United Nations Environment Program I convened leading experts on the subject. 

Now the Inter Government Panel on Climate Change, a representatives group of the world’s leading scientists which had its genesis in these earlier initiatives, has sounded the alarm that greenhouse gas emissions have been growing more rapidly and the risks to which they give rise more imminent. 

We cannot afford, and must not allow, further delay as it is clear that some of the consequences of climate change are already irreversible.  

A recent study by Global Humanity Forum headed by former UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan, estimates that the economic and human costs of climate change has already amounted to an estimated USD125 billion per year and loss of 300,000 lives. 

This underscores the urgent necessity of agreement in Copenhagen on new measures beyond the terms of the Kyoto Protocol which expires in 2012. 

This must include binding commitment designed to ensure that global emissions do not go beyond the threshold of irreversibility. It is shaping up to be the most difficult and most important international agreement ever attempted.  

Maurice Strong, Secretary-General of U.N. Conference on Human Environment, answering questions at a press conference in 1972. Maurice Strong’s Outlook on COP15 Climate Change Negotiations, Exclusive Interview by Fred Dubee and Marisha Wojciechowska-Shibuya: 14/10/2009 (MaximsNewsNetwork). PHOTO: The two-week U.N. Conference on Human Environment (5-16 June 1972) was called by the UN General Assembly with the aim of producing an international political consensus on ways of preserving and improving the environment for this and future generations. Maurice Strong, Secretary-General of the Conference, answering a question put to him by a correspondent during his press conference held at the Old Parliament Building. 04 June 1972 Photo ©Yutaka Nagata, UN Photo # 186102

Maurice Strong, Secretary-General of U.N. Conference on Human Environment, answering questions at a press conference in 1972.

The two-week U.N. Conference on Human Environment (5-16 June 1972) was called by the UN General Assembly with the aim of producing an international political consensus on ways of preserving and improving the environment for this and future generations. 

Maurice Strong, Secretary-General of the Conference, answering a question put to him by a correspondent during his press conference held at the Old Parliament Building. 04 June 1972 Photo ©Yutaka Nagata, UN Photo # 186102  

Fred Dubee & Marisha Wojciechowska-Shibuya: One of the critical elements of these climate change negotiations is the balance of responsibility between developing and industrialized countries. Will developing countries ever agree to curbing their emissions, despite the fact that most of the CO2 emissions currently in the atmosphere were spewed by the West?

Maurice Strong: All countries will suffer the consequences of climate change and all will need to cooperate in the measures required to reduce and mitigate its effects. 

Developing countries which have contributed the least to these crises are likely to suffer most. Yet they have the least capacity to deal with it. 

Their responsibilities must clearly be recognized as common but differentiated from those of the principal industrial countries which have produced the accumulated emissions that produced the crisis and enjoyed the economic benefits which accompanied this.

Greenhouse gases from every source contribute to their global accumulation and it is in the interest of all countries that developing countries be fully engaged in the global efforts to manage the crisis. 

This makes it imperative that in the fundamental transformation we must make in our economy, developing countries be accorded full and equitable participation in its benefits. 

We cannot achieve security and sustainability of our civilization if the majority of the world’s people continue to be deprived of its benefits and opportunities. Indeed, it would be compounding the already tragic and dangerous situation we face if the current crises were to lead to deepening rather than bridging the rich-poor divide.

  

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This is the broader context in which we must view the position of the developing countries. They cannot be expected to agree to curb their emissions unless it is accompanied by massively increased international support, not only for the actions they must take to reduce their emissions, but for their entire economies. 

This must go beyond the aid they have been so often promised but not delivered to enable them to share the benefits of the world economy much as the disadvantaged regions of most nations share the benefits of their national economy. 

While it would be too much to expect this kind of fundamental change to be fully agreed in Copenhagen it could be accepted as a priority objective and a process established to negotiate agreement on its achievement. 

In the meantime Copenhagen must produce specific commitments to provide developing countries with access to the technologies and financial support to enable them to achieve the levels of economic efficiency to accelerate their development while limiting their greenhouse gas emissions.

This does not have to come from new money requiring increases in already strained budgets. It is primarily a matter of changing priorities in the allocation and use of existing resources to be capable of meeting the needs of reconstituted economies on a continuing basis.  

Fred Dubee & Marisha Wojciechowska-Shibuya: What must governments imperatively agree to in order to avert climate change doomsday scenarios?

Maurice Strong: We must treat climate change as a security issue – the greatest security risk that we have ever faced to the survival of life as we know it. 

Only thus will we be able to agree to the specific level at which global emissions must be caped and commitments made by each country to the reduction of its emissions that will be necessary to achieve this. 

The positions of the principal emitters will be the main determinant of success at Copenhagen and substantial differences continue to divide them.

To limit temperature increases to 1.5 degree centigrade below pre-industrial levels will require the more developed countries to reduce their collective emissions by more than 85% from 1990 levels by the year 2050. 

If a higher temperature range is accepted this will clearly require much more radical measures by the principal emitters. Despite increased awareness and concern, it would clearly be a daunting challenge for governments to accept firm and binding commitment to this in Copenhagen. 

But they must at the very least establish the framework for it and agree on certain key issues and a continuing process of negotiation. Further delay can only exacerbate the risks and increase the costs of action.  

Fred Dubee & Marisha Wojciechowska-Shibuya: Who are the decisive actors in these climate change negotiations?

Maurice Strong: Together the United State and China account for some 40% of global greenhouse gas emissions. Their cooperation in meeting the climate change challenge is essential, indeed decisive. 

Although the Obama Administration accords high priority to climate change, it may be difficult to obtain congressional approval for the kind of commitments that will enable it to take the lead in Copenhagen.  

China’s situation is different. Although it has now surpassed the United States in current emission levels, it is still well behind the United States in per capita terms, the average Chinese produces only 1/5 as much in carbon emissions as the average American. 

Since the dawn of the industrial revolution, the United States has produced more than 1 trillion tons of carbon emissions from fossil fuels compared to China’s 300 million tons. 

Thus China can be expected to require actions on the part of the United States that take account of its role as the largest contributor to the current crisis.

Paradoxically, China will be able to demonstrate in Copenhagen that it is already taking more action than the United States to limit some of the main sources of its emissions, as for example, imposing stricter limits on emissions from vehicles and committing to a 20% improvement in its energy efficiency by 2010. 

China’s energy and resource institute has suggested that by 2020 the country could reduce its current emission growth rate by half and effect a reduction of 1/3 in its absolute emissions by 2050. 

This is certainly an ambitious goal but like many goals that China has set for itself throughout its history, it is one it could well achieve. 

Recent China initiatives to undertake constructive cooperation with the U. S., and others in addressing climate change are certainly encouraging. 

On the other hand, there are still many bridges that have to be crossed before the positions of China and the United States can be more fully reconciled.

Fred Dubee & Marisha Wojciechowska-Shibuya: Can the international community and our governments really meet the challenge?

Maurice Strong: The climate change and economic crisis require a degree of international cooperation that has only been achieved on a limited basis in wartime and never on the global scale.

Global government is neither necessary nor practical. 

What is necessary is a global system of governance through which the nations of the world cooperate to address issues which none can deal with alone. 

Highest priority must be given to those issues which affect the security, sustainability and survival of all humanity. 

This is certainly true of both climate change and the related needs for fundamental changes in our current economic system. 

I believe in the principle of subsidiary that all actions should be dealt with at the levels closest to the people concerned. 

On this basis, the role of global government would be to provide the framework of principles and context required to facilitate actions which can be best taken at the local, national or regional levels.  

Fred Dubee & Marisha Wojciechowska-Shibuya: Switching to a carbon-free economy entails huge financial costs, i.e.: countries will need to redesign their energy grids, build new infrastructure, etc. How will the world pay for this?

Maurice Strong: Moving to the carbon-free economy requires, as I already have said that Copenhagen produces a commitment to a Climate Security Program and at least the main elements of it as well as establishment of a “Climate Security-Fund” to finance its implementation. 

This would require firm and continuing commitments by the more developed countries based on their emissions and their Gross National Products (GDP). 

The initial scale of this Fund will need to be on the order of USD 1 trillion over the initial ten year period. This will inevitably be viewed as unrealistic in the current financial crisis which will be used to justify such resistance. 

But it must go well beyond foreign aid as conventionally defined and be integrated into the process of fundamental changes in our economy. It will ultimately exceed the initial target figure of USD1 trillion which is the estimated cost to the United States alone of its wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

It will take a strong will and binding commitments by the more developed countries to undertake the changes of their economies that this will require and for the developing countries to be in the position to absorb the resources they receive to build sustainable and competitive economies.

Some of the measure which could contribute to this process would be the fees on the use of the global commons – the ocean, the atmosphere and outer space that are not under national jurisdiction, a Tobin-type tax on financial transactions, taxes on fossil fuels and other sources of emissions and by shifting subsidies from those substances and practices which contribute to climate change to those which contribute to the reduction of carbon emissions. 

Developing countries must also be accorded expanded opportunities to earn credits by their ability to reduce emissions at much lower cost than can be achieved in more developed countries which will pay them for this. 

This will involve an improved and extended version of the Clean Development Mechanism (CDM) established under the Kyoto Protocol Trading where these emissions credits have already become a rapidly growing business and where developing countries must be supported in fully accessing and benefiting from these markets.

Fred Dubee & Marisha Wojciechowska-Shibuya: Having led and witnessed so much of the world’s international environmental movement, are you hopeful that we can avert the climate change debacle?

Maurice Strong: Throughout human history, civilizations have risen and fallen, often due to mismanagement of their environment and the resources on which they depended. The consequences were clearly devastating for those affected, but there was always somewhere else for them to go. 

The climate change crisis is fundamentally different because it is global in scale and affects the survival and sustainability of all nations and people. It is also different in that we know its causes and probable consequences. 

We know, too, that we are the first generation ever to have responsibility for our own future. What we do, or fail to do, will determine the future of life on Earth. This requires unprecedented levels of cooperation both within and amongst nations. 

But it does not require homogeneity in our life styles or cultures. After all, we can learn from nature that the healthiest and most sustainable natural ecological systems are those which maintain the highest degree of diversity and variety

For while the fundamental changes I believe must take place at the level of individual people as well as nations, it promises to produce improved conditions of life and a more secure and sustainable future for all people.

It is instructive to reflect on the fact that the conditions required to support life as we know it have only existed on Earth for a small portion of its history and within relatively narrow parameters. 

The unprecedented growth of human numbers and the extent and nature of human activities are now impacting the conditions on which our survival and well-being depend. 

Our very existence is now at risk and its future is literally in our own hands. We have the knowledge and capacity to ensure our survival. The real question is do we have the will to make the fundamental changes that this requires.

 

-  Frederick C. Dubee is Executive Director, International, Global Management Education Institute, Shanghai University, Associate Director, Asia Research Centre for the UN Global Compact and Professor (hc) Beijing Genomics Institute.

-  Marisha Wojciechowska-Shibuya is Senior International Editor of MaximsNews.com

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